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T O P I C R E V I E WcharlieCancer Mercury 11HCap Moon 5HLibra Pluto 2HPerhaps in a less "abstract" way Gemini Blues quote:Originally posted by charlie:Cancer Mercury 11HCap Moon 5HLibra Pluto 2HPerhaps in a less "abstract" way Hmmm... Less abstract... I'll take a shot but no promises.From my personal experience, T squares are a gift, but one you have to work at. In fact, they leave you little choice but to do so.The conflict here is between thought (Mercury) and emotions (moon). In the T, the planet that is the focus (Pluto) plays the role of moderator or referee. Pluto is the planet of creative destruction, death and rebirth.I would imagine that when you have a conflict between head and heart, you look to tear down and rebuild to resolve the conflict.The 5th 11th axis is (loosely) self vs society. Perhaps your ideals don't match your heart in this regard? Or perhaps when the needs of the self conflict with the needs of others, you seek the security of the 2nd house?T squares are never easy things to figure out. They take work. But when you do, they are great sources of strength.charlie quote:Originally posted by Gemini Blues: Hmmm... Less abstract... I'll take a shot but no promises.From my personal experience, T squares are a gift, but one you have to work at. In fact, they leave you little choice but to do so.The conflict here is between thought (Mercury) and emotions (moon). In the T, the planet that is the focus (Pluto) plays the role of moderator or referee. Pluto is the planet of creative destruction, death and rebirth.I would imagine that when you have a conflict between head and heart, you look to tear down and rebuild to resolve the conflict.The 5th 11th axis is (loosely) self vs society. Perhaps your ideals don't match your heart in this regard? Or perhaps when the needs of the self conflict with the needs of others, you seek the security of the 2nd house?T squares are never easy things to figure out. They take work. But when you do, they are great sources of strength.This all makes sense, I think, but will need to ponder more. One Q though: is Pluto whom I should lean on for answers in this battle??Faith^^ Usually you look to the missing planet, the one that would convert your t-square into a grand cross. In this case, it's Aries. With Libra Pluto at the apex of that t-square, you are put into intense situations of partnership. You're balancing your intuition overload (11H Cancer Mercury) with a need for practical solutions that make life more structured and enjoyable (5H Cap moon.) I would imagine that you struggle to balance your social and antisocial impulses, believing that your material security (2H Pluto) is at stake if you can't strike that balance. If the degree of Aries that completes the t-square would fall in your 8th house, it fits that you would strive to sublimate some of your social tensions into sex, an interest in death, and the occult. What you may need to embrace is the Aries way of just being who you are without giving it too much analysis, or making it more complex than it needs to be. Lonake quote:Originally posted by charlie:One Q though: is Pluto whom I should lean on for answers in this battle??Gemini Blues will have his own opinion of course, but just to give you another,Lean on bravely facing all of the baggage that you carry to give you a sense of energy and confidence to build the life that you need and desire. If you face it, if you put it out there unabashedly, as a statement (maybe creatively, but definitely as a Way of Living) you will start on a path towards wholeness. Exploring dominance in the area of sexuality could also be a way to work with this energy.There was some discussion earlier on this broader topic, might be helpful, T-squares..whats the remedy to counter them?Aries23DegreesLibra Pluto in 2nd:I was thinking that maybe I should get Brian(boyfriend) that new watch? You know how happy he gets when I spend on him spontaneously.Moon in Cap in 5th;No Pluto. You know we can't over-extend ourselves.I already have a budget set for the month.Brian will understand.Libra Pluto in 2nd;(cheeky) Well maybe you should just work overtime? It's that boring job that seems to be the only thing you enjoy anyways Moon in Cap in 5th;(snaps)Don't sass me!! That "boring" job affords you that coat. And that mouth.Besides,if you want to spend.Plan first.Libra Pluto in 2nd; But where is the fun in that? I want to have some fun:Cant we go out at least? Cancer Mercury in 11th:(Gets in edgeways)I have an idea We could invite some close friends over? We don't need a large crowd to have fun!Cap Moon in 5th: I don't know if I want to do that.They may eat me out of house and home.I really want to limit my spending..Libra Pluto in 2nd: Yaaaaaawwwwn!! Life of the party this one I told you Mercury. She is such a bore!!Cancer Mercury in 11th;Come on Lunar.(pleads). Maybe we could have 4 of them come over? Please! They are practically family.Moon in Cap in 5th; But what about our promise to limit spending? We just don't have that kind of money to throw around. Libra Pluto in 2nd; Just because we are not rich,doesn't mean that we can't have fun though? What's the harm in a little fun?And on and on they go. It will take a while before a decision is made to please all. And they turn on each other too.All this happens in a much sorter time span than one can imagine. LonakeThat's a fun way to imagine/articulate it ^ I love when people post placement conversations~charlieThank you all for giving me insight! Great answers charlie quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Lean on bravely facing all of the baggage that you carry to give you a sense of energy and confidence to build the life that you need and desire. If you face it, if you put it out there unabashedly, as a statement (maybe creatively, but definitely as a Way of Living) you will start on a path towards wholeness. Exploring dominance in the area of sexuality could also be a way to work with this energy.There was some discussion earlier on this broader topic, might be helpful, T-squares..whats the remedy to counter them?[/B]I have had issues with sexuality not saying I haven't had (quite the opposite) sex but it hasn't come from within although I have been wanting to "release" it. Oddly enough the only ones I have come fairly close with have been Aries'. So Aries might be my missing link to help me along the way.
Perhaps in a less "abstract" way
quote:Originally posted by charlie:Cancer Mercury 11HCap Moon 5HLibra Pluto 2HPerhaps in a less "abstract" way
Hmmm... Less abstract... I'll take a shot but no promises.
From my personal experience, T squares are a gift, but one you have to work at. In fact, they leave you little choice but to do so.
The conflict here is between thought (Mercury) and emotions (moon). In the T, the planet that is the focus (Pluto) plays the role of moderator or referee. Pluto is the planet of creative destruction, death and rebirth.
I would imagine that when you have a conflict between head and heart, you look to tear down and rebuild to resolve the conflict.
The 5th 11th axis is (loosely) self vs society. Perhaps your ideals don't match your heart in this regard? Or perhaps when the needs of the self conflict with the needs of others, you seek the security of the 2nd house?
T squares are never easy things to figure out. They take work. But when you do, they are great sources of strength.
quote:Originally posted by Gemini Blues: Hmmm... Less abstract... I'll take a shot but no promises.From my personal experience, T squares are a gift, but one you have to work at. In fact, they leave you little choice but to do so.The conflict here is between thought (Mercury) and emotions (moon). In the T, the planet that is the focus (Pluto) plays the role of moderator or referee. Pluto is the planet of creative destruction, death and rebirth.I would imagine that when you have a conflict between head and heart, you look to tear down and rebuild to resolve the conflict.The 5th 11th axis is (loosely) self vs society. Perhaps your ideals don't match your heart in this regard? Or perhaps when the needs of the self conflict with the needs of others, you seek the security of the 2nd house?T squares are never easy things to figure out. They take work. But when you do, they are great sources of strength.
This all makes sense, I think, but will need to ponder more. One Q though: is Pluto whom I should lean on for answers in this battle??
With Libra Pluto at the apex of that t-square, you are put into intense situations of partnership. You're balancing your intuition overload (11H Cancer Mercury) with a need for practical solutions that make life more structured and enjoyable (5H Cap moon.) I would imagine that you struggle to balance your social and antisocial impulses, believing that your material security (2H Pluto) is at stake if you can't strike that balance.
If the degree of Aries that completes the t-square would fall in your 8th house, it fits that you would strive to sublimate some of your social tensions into sex, an interest in death, and the occult. What you may need to embrace is the Aries way of just being who you are without giving it too much analysis, or making it more complex than it needs to be.
quote:Originally posted by charlie:One Q though: is Pluto whom I should lean on for answers in this battle??
Lean on bravely facing all of the baggage that you carry to give you a sense of energy and confidence to build the life that you need and desire. If you face it, if you put it out there unabashedly, as a statement (maybe creatively, but definitely as a Way of Living) you will start on a path towards wholeness. Exploring dominance in the area of sexuality could also be a way to work with this energy.
There was some discussion earlier on this broader topic, might be helpful, T-squares..whats the remedy to counter them?
Moon in Cap in 5th;No Pluto. You know we can't over-extend ourselves.I already have a budget set for the month.Brian will understand.
Libra Pluto in 2nd;(cheeky) Well maybe you should just work overtime? It's that boring job that seems to be the only thing you enjoy anyways
Moon in Cap in 5th;(snaps)Don't sass me!! That "boring" job affords you that coat. And that mouth.
Besides,if you want to spend.Plan first.
Libra Pluto in 2nd; But where is the fun in that? I want to have some fun:Cant we go out at least?
Cancer Mercury in 11th:(Gets in edgeways)I have an idea We could invite some close friends over? We don't need a large crowd to have fun!
Cap Moon in 5th: I don't know if I want to do that.They may eat me out of house and home.I really want to limit my spending..
Libra Pluto in 2nd: Yaaaaaawwwwn!! Life of the party this one I told you Mercury. She is such a bore!!
Cancer Mercury in 11th;Come on Lunar.(pleads). Maybe we could have 4 of them come over? Please! They are practically family.
Moon in Cap in 5th; But what about our promise to limit spending? We just don't have that kind of money to throw around.
Libra Pluto in 2nd; Just because we are not rich,doesn't mean that we can't have fun though? What's the harm in a little fun?
And on and on they go. It will take a while before a decision is made to please all.
And they turn on each other too.All this happens in a much sorter time span than one can imagine.
quote:Originally posted by Lonake:Lean on bravely facing all of the baggage that you carry to give you a sense of energy and confidence to build the life that you need and desire. If you face it, if you put it out there unabashedly, as a statement (maybe creatively, but definitely as a Way of Living) you will start on a path towards wholeness. Exploring dominance in the area of sexuality could also be a way to work with this energy.There was some discussion earlier on this broader topic, might be helpful, T-squares..whats the remedy to counter them?[/B]
There was some discussion earlier on this broader topic, might be helpful, T-squares..whats the remedy to counter them?[/B]
I have had issues with sexuality not saying I haven't had (quite the opposite) sex but it hasn't come from within although I have been wanting to "release" it. Oddly enough the only ones I have come fairly close with have been Aries'. So Aries might be my missing link to help me along the way.
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